Mar 6, 2001 • by Sergey Izrigi

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Hello.

1. Non-doing of Dreams (justification of the map in terms introduced by Castaneda).

Please explain.

What is the doing of dreams? Look at the dream described by Valentin in his forum. He writes about the death of an old man. Several Sprites are present there, a certain plot (a pure scheme, moreover), dialogues, monologues, and his feelings about it. Let's consider this the doing of a dream. Then its non-doing would be fixing attention on something else. I suggested the landscape. One could choose the background of the environment, etc. Thus, Val, being in the house, could "remember" the area in which this house is located. What would happen then? Firstly, an expansion of space (or attention). Secondly, such a maneuver would allow him to detach from participating in the plot and "stand above the scene."

Let's do this. Why chew on others' truths? Take any of your recorded (long-recorded) dreams. This is so as not to introduce a new point of view into the description. Classify the components of the description (monologue, dialogue, Sprites, thoughts, etc.) and place their list on the left side of a sheet. On the right side, list the dream components that you did not describe (we'll assume that the usual fixation technique chose not to take them into account). Begin working with these elements. Create approximate techniques for working with them. Check these techniques for correspondence with non-doing, the warrior's path, and your intention. We once performed such a review and decided that cartography meets all aspects of non-doing. But the main criterion was several correspondences with C.C.'s stories. Specifically, a) Frequent references to directions and cardinal points in dialogues with D.H. b) When D.H. described the island of the Tonal - it was a cartographic description. I will explain this more fully in the official file. I will surround myself with books, extract quotes, and substantiate my view according to all canons of Toltec scholars.

2. Dreams as "Perception Bubbles."

I don't quite understand why "bubbles" specifically.

You read my letter about polygons and computer graphics, didn't you? The space of an individual Dreaming is limited. It is described by a rather small number of elements, and it exhibits "flaws" inherent in three-dimensional graphics. In fact, it is a kind of polygon, which in some cases reduces to a banal pyramid with the "flat vision" effect (i.e., you are at one vertex and look at a plane formed by three other vertices.) But in vivid dreams, the dream program is so debugged that a very complex structure is required - an almost ideal sphere. That is why we introduced the concept of the "Perception Bubble." However, even it malfunctions when you reach the sphere's boundaries - spatial distortions begin, or you transition into another space (bubble).

3. Orienting Individual Dreams on a Map (how to create a map from a hundred disparate dreams).

Here, as I understand it, it's a matter of time. Question: if there are records of old dreams (say, 10 years old), can they be used?

Of course! Moreover, while engaged in cartography, you will often recall "not your own" dreams. This is a paradox. You will meet dream guides who will introduce you to areas of dreams from which people have departed for various reasons. It is in this context that we understand C.C.'s phrase about the modality of time (people's Assemblage Points gradually shift; in my opinion, to the bad [right] side). In many of your dreams, Sprites from different periods of life act simultaneously. Many places of your life merge into one generalized place. Thus, the dream world seemingly does not change, and what's interesting is that you also remain the same within it - a kind of ray of perception illuminating certain positions. New contexts and Sprites simply appear, but the places, feelings, emotions - they are the same. This means any dreams are suitable for cartography.

4. Reversal of Dream Space (inverting N-S and W-E coordinates by 180 degrees).

This I didn't understand, why.

This is a tribute to the Taoist tradition of Dreaming. Initially, we thought we had discovered some new self-development technique. Then suddenly, books about dream maps started appearing - Panov's "Dreaming School," Shanae's "Shamanic Practices," etc.

I was "seconded" to Siberia and lived for a year with a Tungus shaman. A cheerful old fellow - like Genaro. He gave me mushroom tinctures, showed me the Lower Worlds, and broke my fear of nature. (When I returned to St. Petersburg and led a meditation course in a small group, an ordinary house mouse brazenly ran out of its hole and settled on my folded palms. This happened in full view of twelve people sitting two meters away from me. The effect was such that I had to leave the city. Since then, I vowed never to teach or appear in public as a guru. The pattern of teacher behavior is terribly captivating and drains one's strength.)

So, shamans have precise cartography of the Lower Worlds. It seems a bit idiotic at first glance, but it works wonderfully. And I was surprised that the Tungus draw maps in reverse - north is at the bottom for them, and south is at the top. I asked the shaman about this, and he said it had been that way since ancient times. Around the same time, I became interested in a strange group of archaeologists. The head of the expedition and I became friends, and she told me this story. Her grandfather was repressed to Siberia - to a remote taiga settlement. No one particularly watched the prisoner, and he engaged in ethnography. In short, the old man learned about the ruins of an ancient temple and eventually found it. It was a temple of Hanuman. In the Siberian taiga! According to the head of the expedition, both Omsk and Tomsk got their names from the word "Om." And the Khanty-Mansi people were formerly called Hanumansiytsy. The grandfather sent his relatives a map by which the temple could be found. And so, my acquaintance, trembling with reverence, showed me this map. Inscriptions were at the top, then the map followed. And the cardinal directions were reversed!

This aspect of reversal in maps interested our group so much that we conducted further research. It turned out that such an orientation comes from the Chinese. Through interest in the Chinese, we came across a long-forgotten Taoist technique of Dreaming, photocopied four ancient manuscripts in the Beijing Library, and after their translation... we were stunned. Not only did we repeat their path! Not only did the experience of the Taoists bring us a lot of insights! But they also gave us a new goal - a journey through the northern limit of the Tonal - to the source of immortality.

Imagine! Don Juan and C.C. gave people passage in the southwest of the map, while the Taoists gave it in the north! Therefore, our group has now split again into two brigades - the northern (Doc's) and the users' (i.e., SW) - mine. And then three of our guys "saw" the arrangement of the dream world relative to the world of everyday reality. Imagine two pyramids connected at their vertices. Their bases are two worlds, but they are oriented relative to each other with a 180-degree shift.

5. Merging of "Bubbles" and the Strange Non-linearity of Dream Space

One or two concrete examples would be good.

One of my comrades has a little son - a 5-year-old boy, who flits through the dream world like a fish in water. And so these two men went to visit relatives in a village, and both, in a shared Dreaming, saw a treasure buried near a distinctive oak. The next morning, they took shovels and went for the prize. Moreover, they found a rusty nail, seen in the Dreaming, a pile of cow dung - in short, all the signs matched. The guys dug a pit for four days, reaching a water vein at a depth of three meters, but they did not retrieve the treasure. All four days they repeated the search in the Dreaming, and the treasure was there. The dreams of two nights said - dig deeper; the dream of the third night reported - you've dug past it.

Either one needs to know some special word for the treasure to yield itself, or treasure hunting in Dreaming is akin to bonuses in some computer games, where they are only given to players with a special rating - I don't know. But in Dreaming, there is what you don't find in the real world.

Second example: While making a map, I discovered an extra street in the area where I lived then. In the real world, there were two streets there, but in dreams, there were three. And the third ran through the real world's gardens. This phenomenon intrigued me. I met the owner of one of the gardens and one day came to him with a bottle of wine. While the owner was drinking, I managed to walk through his territory and there discovered the remains of an old foundation - right on the side of my dream street. The owner of the garden said that a long time ago (perhaps a couple of centuries ago) a street had indeed run there. Literally the next night, I found myself in a dream at that spot, entered that house, and met a Romani woman. And not just met her! She taught me a wild array of magical things - summoning spirits, constructing destiny, etc. I especially liked the magical solitaires, which I consider an ideal example for learning intention.

This is yet another example for you that in dreams there are spaces that once existed in the real world. And conversely, in our world, there are places that do not exist in dreams.

Once, a certain entity fled from me into the fourth dimension, right through what was. I was amazed: I actually saw the fourth dimension, with my own eyes! :)

Apparently, at that moment you truly "saw." Frankly, I have stopped being surprised by such sporadic visions. Today, for example, I was walking along a path in the forest and saw a blue spot on a pine trunk. At first, I thought it was someone's jacket. Then it dawned on me that it was a strangely luminous color. I returned, and there was nothing. I looked from different perspectives - nothing! But the memory remained. Something like a large basket, resembling a stupa. Sky-blue, right at the base of the trunk. Oh well. No need to guess.

1. Common Elements of All Dream Maps (the theme of archetypes, but in their new quality, as certain personifications of the human band of consciousness).

Please, this needs to be most detailed. It would even be good to dedicate a separate long letter to this topic.

Let's do that. I asked a new acquaintance of mine from Magadan to write an article about dream archetypes. She is a psychologist with a scientific degree, so she's the right person for it. And I will add my examples, references, and remarks there. If she doesn't write it, then I will do it myself later. In principle, all the materials for this are at hand.

2. Comparison of the Dream Map with Don Juan's Description of the Tonal (remember, the island of the Tonal that needs to be ordered?)

This can be explained in a few words. The principle of ordering itself.

Sometime in Hubbard, I read an idea that our consciousness is filled with spheres of memories, and these, allegedly, include all elements of certain individual events. A sphere-memory of one event. The book even had a drawing - a funnel filled with a pile of small spheres. During clearing, the spheres are pulled out and re-examined until a special sphere is reached - the core that generated the basis of all engrams. (Forgive me if I deviate from Scientology terms and concepts. I read this book about fifteen years ago in English.) The same picture can be imagined in relation to dreams. We are a handful of dream-spheres, mixed, compressed, rolled aside... You take them and form a plane, orienting yourself by the landscape of the dream world - a flat dream map is assembled from these little spheres like a puzzle. The spheres fall into place, fit one into another, align; you bring order to your kingdom. And boom, life changes. There are no loose ends left in it. Everything is compact, cozy, familiar. This is your world - a true and reliable shield against the attacks of the Nagual. Having accumulated strength, you go into the unknown. When you emerge from the Nagual, you enter a world where you will find support and strength for recovery in anything.

4. Description of Transport Lines and their Clear Analogy with Assemblage Point Movements.

Please elaborate. Sometimes I dreamed that I was going somewhere, most often it was on trains or electric trains. However, the entire dream occurred within that very train/electric train - i.e., I never arrived anywhere. No, sometimes I did arrive, but there was nothing special there. The Assemblage Point, in my opinion, can be shifted in a dream just like that. (If only I knew how! :)

And again, the same technique. If you are in a house, look out the windows, recall the surroundings of the house. If you are on an electric train, memorize the stations you pass. Try to discern which stations are absent in the dream world and which have appeared from nowhere. Every strangeness in a dream leads to power. Every station that is absent in the real world will lead you to a place of power. Transport lines are amazing analogies to the movement of the Assemblage Point. When I was still fooling around and leading groups, I used the electric train to move along the student's temporal trace. Like - close your eyes, imagine you are boarding an electric train. Settle by the window. Look out the window. Look at me. I am in the real world, and you are traveling into the past. I will count to five, and the train will move somewhere back into your youth. Let's go! Stop "twenty-two years." Do we stop? No? Let's go further. Twenty years. Do we stop? No? Let's go further. Seventeen years. You want to get off. Approach the doors. Descend. This is the station you saw during that period of your life. Examine it. The roof, the ticket booth window, the alley leading to the toilet. You see it?

And so on. I could lead a person to any period of their life and went there with them - to some sad or terrible moment, which we revisited again and again - until a sigh of relief simultaneously escaped our lips. Then the submodalities of perception changed - black-and-white pictures were replaced by colored ones, short and jagged by endless and smooth. A common technique, but the results were sometimes colossal. A long, long time ago... In the busy life of a respected "guru" (heh-heh). I like Don Juan's phrase... he loves people so much that he no longer worries about them (something like that).

5. The Effect of Artificial Space (do you remember, I described to you the process of suddenly recalling all past dreams?)

What is artificial space? When individual fragments merge into one? Meaning, what results is "art. sp."?

I already wrote about this to Zest. Let's leave this topic for next time, when your bubbles start to form.

6. What should a Dreamer do in a Lucid Dream? (your suggestions, apart from flying through walls, contemplating hands, and terrorizing dream images).

Exactly! This is very important! Because I was experiencing exactly what you talked about: I got tired of flying, walking through walls, etc., and I didn't know what to do.

At this stage, the "Dream Hackers" divided according to their interests. Some explore passages into the Nagual. One guy stumbled upon a library in dreams where the greatest works of humanity from their entire existence are collected! And why not? It's his dream, so he calls the shots. The only problem was the fixation of texts. You've probably tried to read in a dream. Letters float, lines change before your eyes. But he wanted to become a translator of dream books. And you know, this guy achieved tremendous success. Astounding! Several people are busy creating their dream bodies using Don Juan's method. Some are exploring the incomprehensible zones of the Tonal. Three are disappearing into the house of teachers. In their opinion, each of us receives an initiation in dreams, travels with emissaries through the Nagual, and has a chance to remember oneself on the left side of consciousness. There are many intentions; you just have to choose yours. One girl paints pictures. I once took her sketch to a famous artist. He placed the painting on an easel, we sat down to drink tea, and then a Swedish buyer arrived. The first canvas he immediately tucked under his arm was my acquaintance's sketch. The artist and I later laughed until we cried. You should have seen that Swede's eyes.

There are many things to do in Dreaming, and even more non-doing.

What is this 07-09.doc? And HOW to transition from "delusional loops" into a Lucid Dream? (Honestly, I barely remember two types of dreams - 100% chatter).

Haha. Ask your relatives to gently wake you up in the middle of the night at different times for three or four nights (if they are kind enough to do so). Upon waking, remember the dream. I guarantee it will be either a monologue or a dialogue - that is, 100% chatter! 07-09.doc - these will be parts of a text in which I plan to describe our techniques in detail.